I am a big fan of Stagg's Ocean Thin series. The Stagg series was an upgrade over my Paiste PST5 series, can you believe that? I decided on the Ocean series after much deliberation and today, I suggest them without hesitation. Explosive, Dry, less sustain and super durable, these cymbals can burn the fuck out of these mid range Paiste, Zildzian or Meinl cymbals any given day. I play thrash metal and not a single cymbal I have used yet gave me the power that Stagg's ocean series does.